Widdly Widdly Widdly Widdly Part 2
So, after the last blog I thought I’d post
some of my thoughts about actually playing fast – Troy Grady of Cracking the Code was kind enough to read the last post and offer
his thoughts – one of which was that loud fast rock guitar is back in vogue
again in the US – at least to the extent that Avenged Sevenfold are selling
heaps of albums. We had Dragonforce in the UK a few years back….
So, what advice
for guitarists working on speed? Well, bearing in mind that I am not Rusty
Cooley or Stochelo Rosenberg, here are my thoughts. For my part, speed is a
very real consideration for a guitar player wishing to develop their playing as
a gypsy jazz lead guitarist. This is a virtuosic style, and not just because of
the improvisation. Here’s an example of what an accomplished gypsy jazz guitar player might
reasonably expected to cope with (as opposed to the extreme end of the envelope technically.)
I am on my way to executing this piece at this tempo, and will post a video when I am happy with it. Working on this and other fast and fancy material has led me to this conclusion:
Speed/‘Technique’
= Good Biomechanics + Accurate
Subdivision
OK into the specifics - this will get super nerdy very quick, but if you are the kind of person who wants to play super fast on the guitar I doubt this will put you off.
Good Biomechanics
Biomechanics is
a fancy word to refer to the way you play the instrument – I’ll adopt it from
Troys’s website as I think it is specific and clear as a term. We could use the
term technique, but technique often gets confused with the result – fast, fluid
playing, something I call ‘technique’ in quotes.
In fact it is
possible to have great ‘technique’ in this sense and bad biomechanics – a
classic example would by Yngwie Malmsteen in the ‘80s. He managed to give
himself career threatening Carpal Tunnel syndrome. This points to something
wrong with the way he played – gypsy jazz and flamenco guitarists, for example,
can manage similar speed and articulation with acoustic instruments and play
this way for years and years with no problems.
Biomechanics for
pick technique can be broken down into two elements – the kind of stroke you
are making and how you make it. The first (economy, alternate, cross picking etc) are much more discussed and understood than the
latter so I won’t talk about them here: you can google them! IMHO all these
picking patterns are all available (more or less) with the right biomechanics. If the second
element is not mastered, however, the student will always struggle.
A great article
on the second point can be found here. This was written by Tuck Andress and is
required reading for anyone serious about developing their pick technique.
However, it is also a little confusingly written and doesn’t include gypsy jazz
technique, so I will add my own thoughts.
Rather than go too much into specifics, I will cover some schools of thought that 'do the work for you.' Setting aside the details of when you do an upstroke or a downstroke, there are to my
knowledge four clear and well described schools of picking in common use (Andress covers more).
Considerations
- Floating
or anchored - is the wrist or hand touching the top of the guitar? If not,
it is a floating technique, if it is, it's anchored.
- Pick grip
- trad (pick wedged in fist against thumb), lazy (fore finger pad against
the thumb), or something else?
- Wrist
angle - straight wrist and arm, or bent ('broken'?)
- Where does
the pick motion come from - arm, wrist or fingers? How does the wrist
move? How does the arm move? What moves it?
- Position –
where is the arm?
- Free
strokes or rest strokes? Mose guitarists use free strokes. Rest strokes - where the pick comes into contact
with the next string after plucking, offers power and positional awareness, which helps with accuracy. (Andress seems not to have considered this in this essay.)
- Teaching
materials - how much information is there on the biomechanics?
- Trad or BMG
technique. Andress refers to this as standard style. This
was a standard approach for guitarists learning in the 50s and 60s as it
was the technique taught in ‘Banjo, Mandolin, Guitar’ or BMG magazine. As
used by Steve Morse and Robert Fripp.
- Electric pick technique. Standard style variation 2 according to Andress. for
most electric players. Used by Al Di Meola, Steve Vai and Julian Lage.
- George Benson technique. A common
approach now in jazz land, largely thanks to Andress. Used by Benson (of course), Carlos Santana, Sheryl Bailey and Adam
Rogers.
- ‘Gypsy’ or Oud picking. Standard style variation 1, with rest strokes. Andress seems unaware of the magic ingredient - rest stroke picking - that made this style so reliable and accurate for Django and Joe Pass. Approach mostly associated with gypsy jazz players today. Used invariably by gypsy jazz players and many early jazz players such as Eddie Lang and George Van Eps.
Quick summary in a table:
School
|
Float or anchored?
|
Grip
|
Wrist
|
Motion
|
Position
|
Free or Rest?
|
1 Trad/BMG
|
Float
|
Trad
|
Straight
|
Forearm, muscular
Rotation of wrist |
Arm above strings
|
Always Free
|
2 Electric
|
Anchored (usually above
bridge)
|
Trad or Lazy
|
Straight
|
Wrist (side-to-side),
fingers
|
Arm above strings
|
Almost always Free
|
3 Benson
|
Float
|
Lazy
|
Bent
|
Anything, including
characteristic oscillation of wrist
|
Arm usually quite low, arm rotated outward from guitar.
|
Either, usually Free
|
4 Gypsy
|
Float – some light contact
with strings and top
|
Slightly lazy trad –
thumb crosses forefinger in an ‘X’
|
45 degree bend (Joe Pass used a flatter wrist)
|
Rotation of wrist, Forearm weight for downstrokes
|
Arm comes in behind
tailpiece – 'in the middle.' (Joe uses a variant here too)
|
Always rest on down strokes
|
All of these
techniques have advantages and disadvantages, apart from the first, which seems
to me to have only disadvantages:
Advantages
|
Disadvantages
|
|
1) Trad or BMG picking
|
· ?
· Good for those who find music easy, and need a challenge.
|
· Really difficult to master.
· Not crazy about the sound it produces.
· Everything that can be done this way can be more easily achieved
using a different style.
· Problems with tensing up? Possible tendonitis?
|
2) Electric picking
|
· Control over distorted/loud guitar.
· Palm muting easily available.
|
· Many players have a tense right hand and struggle with fast playing. Poorly understood biomechanics.
· String skipping of any kind is a problem (e.g. alternate picking
arpeggios etc.)
· Weakest style for acoustic volume and tone, so a poor choice for
acoustic playing. Julian Lage gets away with it through witchcraft of some
type.
|
3) Benson picking
|
· Very flexible.
· Good tone and projection.
· Just listen to George Benson!
|
· Few – less tone than Gypsy picking perhaps, but I do know at least one
acoustic player, Martin Wheatley, who uses a variant of this approach, and he
has no trouble projecting and playing fast.
|
4) ‘Gypsy’ or Oud picking
|
· Absolute relaxation.
· Unsurpassed power and projection on acoustic guitar.
· Reliable positioning of hand – unlike 1) because we are using rest
strokes and knuckles/fingers to sense where we are.
· And – consequently, superchops!
· Well understood and taught in recent years.
|
You may need to
master two or more styles.
Teaching wise, these are my thoughts on the styles:
1) Why do that to yourself?
2) Troy looks like one of the few to be thinking about this biomechanically. Website here, but little info on specifics just yet.
3) A fair bit of info - Andress is a good start. Here's a good video.
4) Loads of info
- I can personally recommend these teaching videos, for example.
Your aim here is
to play everything with as little effort as possible. My own belief is that Gypsy picking, with a little application, is the actually easiest to master of all the schools. There is a wealth of information on it, clear tutorials and there are dozens in London alone who play this way with aplomb. How hard can it be? :-) I learned the basic picking style in a matter of months, though I am continuing to refine it, and my teaching of it. My feeling is also that by learning the gypsy style you can relax into a fast and accurate type 2 picking without too much hassle.
I might have a proper go at learning Benson picking, just to see how hard/easy it is. Interestingly, the picking patterns seem the same as those normally used for gypsy picking - i.e. heavy on the downstrokes and not alternate.
I might have a proper go at learning Benson picking, just to see how hard/easy it is. Interestingly, the picking patterns seem the same as those normally used for gypsy picking - i.e. heavy on the downstrokes and not alternate.
Bear in mind gypsy picking here is not referring to the whole 'start a string with a downstroke' thing - you can use gypsy right hand with any picking pattern. That said, it is really, really worth practicing the traditional style.
Part 3 will
cover subdivision…. I will also post some self analysis of my own playing of
when things don’t quite work and why I think this is so.
Really interesting post - thanks for sharing your thoughts. Incidentally, I think that Tuck Andress does consider the idea of rest stroke picking (and is strongly in favour) - he doesn't treat it in his discussion of the different styles, though, but in section 1.2.5 Picking angle: The miracle cure.
ReplyDeleteI'd be interested to know how important you think the different aspects of the gypsy style are. I'm very keen on the rest stroke and am working on that at the moment (it was something I really liked when I experimented with Benson picking in the past), but I'm less keen on changing things like my pick grip and arm position (mainly to keep my playing stance as compatible as possible with my pseudo-classical fingerstyle approach which I also use a lot).
Hi Mark - thanks for the comment! Must confess it's been a while since I've read the Andress article properly so you probably got me there - will reread.
ReplyDeleteMy own feeling is that you should be able to adapt to gypsy picking without any alteration. Classical posture requires the same things from the right hand - i.e. lots of space under the wrist, and a somewhat bent wrist - that gypsy picking does. I've experimented with gypsy picking with a footstool etc (because many big band archtop players such as Van Eps use a left knee posture, albeit with rather uncomfortable leg crossing), and it works great.
Pick grip - not sure what you use right now, but gypsy picking grip is like a slightly more relaxed trad grip. You are not aiming to support the pick through tension, and actually many of the masters of the technique (Rosenberg et al) hold their picks very lightly, which may take some getting used to.
I'll probably do a quick video. But I really do highly recommend the Djangobooks.com ones. They are very clear on the biomechanics, which is great.
Hi Mark - thanks for the comment! Must confess it's been a while since I've read the Andress article properly so you probably got me there - will reread.
ReplyDeleteMy own feeling is that you should be able to adapt to gypsy picking without any alteration. Classical posture requires the same things from the right hand - i.e. lots of space under the wrist, and a somewhat bent wrist - that gypsy picking does. I've experimented with gypsy picking with a footstool etc (because many big band archtop players such as Van Eps use a left knee posture, albeit with rather uncomfortable leg crossing), and it works great.
Pick grip - not sure what you use right now, but gypsy picking grip is like a slightly more relaxed trad grip. You are not aiming to support the pick through tension, and actually many of the masters of the technique (Rosenberg et al) hold their picks very lightly, which may take some getting used to.
I'll probably do a quick video. But I really do highly recommend the Djangobooks.com ones. They are very clear on the biomechanics, which is great.
I'm intrigued by what benefit all the space under the wrist brings. I have a tendency to want to flatten out the wrist until it's close to straight and hadn't noticed any obvious issues - maybe I need to look at this a bit more carefully.
DeleteHolding the pick very lightly was something I came across in a number of different places when looking into this. My first reaction was extreme scepticism but I had a bit of a play around with it and soon came to the conclusion that it's an extremely sound way to go - I really like the way it means you need much less force to get the pick through the string (it reminds me of this Julian Lage article http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Digging_Deeper_The_Diving_Board_Effect though I'm not sure whether he's achieving the result in the same way or not). As you say, the hard bit is getting used to it - I manage pretty well when I'm specifically focussing on it but I regularly notice that I've slipped back into holding it tightly when I'm just playing. Hopefully repeated practice over time will sort this out.